Rigo:What's interesting about eugenics is that it's a dirty word now, but in the 1920s and the early 1930s, they were mainstream ideas, they were in vogue. Angela:If, you know, the basis of the study of human difference for a couple of hundred years has been that race is real, you don't let go of it overnight, and so of course they didn't let go of it, uh Of it overnight. Rigo:One of Barry Mehler's racist subscriptions was a newspaper called The Thunderbolt. The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. Rigo:Roger Pearson was a British guy who starting in 1958 ran a neo Nazi publication called Northern World out of a British tea plantation in Kolkata, India. 5 (May, 1992) Improving Our Image Powerpoint Our Sorority Issue 15 (April 1987) Phyllis Frye and Phil Donahue TV Guise Vol. This is another clip where Berry Mehler and J. P. Rushton are sitting next to each other debating. WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who So, what it suggested was that Draper and Pioneer really took the initiative in every case, and reached out to these people, and tried to subsidize them once it realized that these were people who were doing things that would be of interest to Pioneer's agenda. 7 No. Rigo:When Barry Mehler said guys like Philippe Rushton aren't just Neo Nazis, they're old fashioned Nazis, he was serious. 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Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously Read allThe precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. McNeil/Leher Report:Race remains one of this country's most divisive topics and a controversial book with racially charged findings hasn't helped the debate. There's a cost to negative publicity, and that maybe he's learned that, uh, there is a way of funding the kinds of, um, activities that he's, uh, in favor of without making them very prominent. He was in deep. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. Rigo:Exactly, but he does it in a very polished away. [laughs]. Rigo:Exactly. WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. Signed, photo. Barry:It's one thing to, you know You listen to, you hear some kind of quote from William Shockley, but then to see a full page, you know, layout in The Thunderbolt, I mean they were just overtly racist, and William Shockley was their hero. Rigo:Right. It's from an interview he did in Playboy Magazine. He travels to Spain. He openly endorsed it. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. Lisa:But since this is Distillations, I'm guessing they're not. Especially of the southern, southern states in the United States had this one drop rule. And I wasn't just calling them Nazis, I was putting out a context to show that this was a fascist endeavor, and that these people were not only Neo Nazis, but they were just old fashioned Nazis, and I think that it was one of the reasons why they hated me so much. WBBM-TV - 630 N. McClurg Court, Near North Side, Chicago, Illinois, USA. Stay informed! WebDonahue: With Phil Donahue, Sammy Davis Jr., Dolly Parton, Debby Boone. WebPhil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 - Archives & Manuscripts at Duke University Libraries Back to top John O'Toole papers, 1954-1990 and undated Correspondence, 1968-1990 and undated Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Phil Donahue Show interviews, 1984 Containers: Box 21 Using These Materials Info for Visitors How to Request Ordering Rigo:And method number two is hide the funding source. First, on the idea front. Uploaded by He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. Photo credit to Steve Kagan. Rigo:Okay, here's one. Lisa:He's a psychologist. I'm gonna take a trip to each of these places to see, and I thought some of these trips might be wasted because there would be nothing there. Using stories from sciences past to understand our world. Lisa:So they really do move underground. Here's money for you. Why would I publish under a pseudonym? They, they didn't know me at all. Rigo:They named it The Pioneer Fund, but sometimes people called it the Draper Fund because it was all of his money, and they funded whatever he wanted. 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Lisa:I can only imagine what a book with that title is gonna be about. Barry:I came across Roger Pearson right away, I mean really early on. Innate Themecomposed by Jonathan Pfeffer. It's like Rushton wants to dress it up in jargon so you don't notice how hateful the premise is, but Mehler just cuts right to the chase. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. Rigo:Yes. Yes, and then these checks were often for ample amounts in the thousands of dollars to people, uh, just because Draper or Pioneer liked what they were doing. WebThe Phil Donahue Show All Episodes 1967 - 1994 Season 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 15 14 13 1 All Overview 54 Episodes IMDB TMDB TVDB Fanart.tv JustWatch Wikipedia He accuses Mehler of character assassination, bias, and of being a left wing nut. Lisa:Ah, the infamous William Shockley. Lisa:Wickliffe Preston Draper. Search the history of over 797 billion Uh, you know, I, I don't need to be credited, and if you want to discredit me, they were always able to discredit me. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Web10 A.M., Phil Donahue, CH.5 Biographical Sketch of Ari Kane Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. One is that they were enormously important to the racists because they legitimated their views, and especially after World War II, when the Nazis had been defeated, you had very little support for these kinds of ideas. WebMain address PO Box 25972 Tamarac, FL 33320 USA Show more contact info EIN 55-0711460 NTEE code info Single Organization Support (W11) IRS filing requirement This organization is required to file an IRS Form 990-N. Communication Programs and results What we aim to solve This profile needs more info. Their desire is to have a platform to disseminate their ideas, and we would be giving them platform if we allow them to speak to here. So, [laughter] that's how I knew the police didn't do it, because if they had done it, they would have done it right. Mehler connected the dots. And thus not remediable to major degrees by practical improvements in the environment. 8 No. Innateis made possible in part by the National Endowment for the Humanities: Democracy demands wisdom. But what Barry Mehler did was to go deeper. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue: And what I'm saying is there might be something inherent in populations that make people behave differently in temperament or intelligence, or what have you. I was right about the cabal in the basement. Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. You know, he's a brilliant guy, and he's got these ideas, and after all, he's probably right. Here's $1,000." There's a load of absolute rubish. Episode 2 from the Innate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race series. Every place I went for a scientist, uh, or a- an activist who had been involved in these issues, there was connections between them and Draper and Pioneer. 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This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Don Grady (of "My Three Sons") composed the theme song for the Donahue show. Lisa:This is exactly what The Pioneer Fund ultimately wanted, right? He is an actor and producer, known for Body of War (2007), Donahue (1967) and The Bold and the Beautiful (1987). He left most of his money to The Pioneer Fund, much to the chagrin of his close family, and The Pioneer Fund handed out more money two years after his death than in the entire period of 1937 to 1972. Rigo:They were very entangled. Rigo:It seems like it's, like, um, kind of click bait-y television for the time. This was also done to make it seem like there were more race scientists than there actually were. Rigo:Why do you think that is? And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. He was an avowed racist, and pretty public about it. The book has 57 pages of bibliography, many from mainstream scientific journals, but some of them are far from reputable. It's kind of a fitting name because he was born into a wealthy family in 1891. Unpublished finding aid available at the repository. Here's $100. Many of this seasons stories talk about racism in terms of how its systemicbaked into science and medicine in subtle ways. Keepers of the Flameis Episode 3ofInnate: How Science Invented the Myth of Race,a podcast and magazine project that explores the historical roots and persistent legacies of racism in American science and medicine. So Pioneer Fund works hard to prop up scientists that they think are going to continue their message, and it gives the ideas credibility in a sense, right, because if they're continuing to get funding then their ideas must not be all that controversial. Rigo:And there's more. The Pioneer paid for it, but the Harvard Educational Review published it. Rigo:So, clearly method three achieved the desired effect, to find powerful like minded racists. That's amazing amount of territory to traverse when you are one of the leading fascist academic and organizers in the world. What's it gonna be? In his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. Rigo:They are still around. He really started to feel their wrath. Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. web pages He wanted to understand their philosophy. When you do research, funded research, you're kind of beholden to your funder in certain ways, right? So he's not just in academic conferences with Nazis, he's also quite literally on the battlefield with them. Barry:He is eventually recognized by the Nazi government in 1936, both because of his work in the sterilization area, but also because he was a major proponent of the so called Racial Integrity Laws, the laws that prohibited people from being married if they were from different races. The department is located in UNT's Willis Library in the fourth floor Reading Room. Just to give you an example of how this works, the journal Nature currently has an impact score of 40, and the Mankind Quarterly sits below one, but none of this mattered to the people in the Mankind Quarterly. The Bell Curve was The Pioneer Fund's biggest win when it was published in 1994. Andhe said, I don't understand. Is it still around? People were throwing money at him. Over the years, he was trying to show the world that there was a direct line from Nazis in World War II to race scientists like Philippe Rushton, and it all comes back to the funding source. After the publishing of The Bell Curve, and the controversy surrounding it, The Pioneer Fund decided to step out of the spotlight and continue doing the things they knew how to do well since 1937, which was to mail out unsolicited propaganda to prominent scientists and politicians. Rigo:Kind of, yeah. News archive:Some of the ideas found in the book, the bell curve are not new. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? Rigo:To polite society, it looked like professor's doing some perhaps questionable work on the side, but nothing that would warrant negative attention, but most people weren't really reading The Thunderbolt. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? But if you want to go complain to your Dean, you go ahead. He called it The Case of Barry Mehler. Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. Normally in my reporting process this is the part where I reach out to the Pioneer Fund or mankind Quarterly -which is also still around today -- But i didn't and theres a very specific reason why that is. [Description and dates], Hagley ID, Box/folder number, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, Wilmington, DE 19807, Access to this item is provided for educational and research purposes only. And you're a Neo Nazi and he added you back. The Pioneer Fund was just handing over cash. Rigo:Yeah. 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Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:So you're telling me they didn't have to apply for grants, or have funding cycles, or write proposals. However, Phil's life changed after meeting Marlo Thomas on his talk show. Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. Phillip John Donahue (born December 21, 1935) is an American media personality, writer, film producer, and the creator and host of The Phil Donahue Show. His television program, later known as Donahue, was the first talk show format that included audience participation. The show had a 29-year run on national television in America Unquote. Listen to this. These things meant a lot to him, and he has a huge inheritance burning a hole in his pocket, so he's looking around for a great social cause to pour his money into, so he becomes drawn to what else but eugenics. I mean the first thing that comes to mind for me is The Bell Curve by Charles Murray, which was huge. Stuff. Rigo:Yes, and here's an example of that. Title of Larger Work The Phil Donahue Show Collection Title Collected Works of Milton Friedman Project records Guest Friedman, Milton (1912-2006) Host Donahue, Phil Publication Type(s) Interviews & TV Appearances. William Shockley wasn't really producing anything new with their money, and he had a really prickly personality, so when his character got in the way of the message, The Pioneer Fund actually cut him off. Rigo:Right, exactly. Lisa:Give me a taste of who we're talking about there. Unquote. Lisa:I'm gonna pull my academic hat on for a second and say an impact score is basically something that measures the importance of a given journal, so the higher the impact score, the more influential it is, so you measure that by citations and references, who's used the journal and cited it in their work. And it's a label they pin on people and then you don't even attend to what the person said. Barry:Laughlin had the in roads, uh, the contact with legislators, the machinery of propaganda, and Draper had the money, and those two things went together to make Laughlin the first president of the foundation that was formed by Draper. Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. Lisa:I really take Mehler's point there. If it is your nonprofit, add a problem Jensen's vague ideas about intelligence being inherited were explicitly connected to the growing neo Nazi movement. Rigo:Yeah, and in fact the Pioneer Fund was very pro-active in finding these race scientists. Here's the work I'm doing. TELEVISION ACADEMY and ACADEMY OF TELEVISION ARTS & SCIENCES are registered trademarks of ATAS. Donahue's guests are two middle aged men who could really pass as accountants. Rigo:That guy went on to become the world's largest publisher of neo Nazi material in Canada. Find thousands of books, manuscripts, visual materials and unpublished archives from our collections, Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. 7 No. Lisa:So real science as a shield for junk science, got it. It gets stranger. Murray told the New York Times that, quote, "Some of the things we read to do this work, we literally had to hide when we were on planes and trains.". This We're not making progress here. Archive of Erbkrant:You find it a specially high percentage of mentally air among the Jewish population. The more citations, the more funding, the more chances to become tenured. on the Internet. He took off his kippah and pretended he wasn't Jewish, and he embedded himself with neo Nazis. So The Pioneer Fund doesn't really care about the science. 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