Best review Ive seen here in a LONG time. Still, I tried a different method, and measured the end-shake at just over .002. Months before Colt was able to get me guns to review, the guns from my buddy came in. Stainless steel is not as pretty as blued. Kracker, I love me a S&W 686. I dont recognize those markings. I had to have one, and about a month ago, I scratched that itch. I do wish they would bring back a lithe 38 Special like the Police Positive. Same here. It isnt like blueing 4140 steel, where you just clean all oil off a polished gun, rinse off the de-greasing bath, and dunk it into the blueing salts for 20+ minutes. The stock Pythons front sight, in both barrel lengths, includes a red ramp front. . Thanks for the review. They owned up to that and said that it was their fault. Boy, I dont know. I wanted this to be my best gun, I wanted to love this gun. My concern seems to be unfounded. Grouping straight out of the box is excellent as expected. Bought the very fist one I could get my hands on, picked it up January 6th. Wood 2 piece grip. Ill pester and pine away for a blued model, but Im overjoyed this new stainless snake gun turned out to be everything I hoped it would. I put a teeny tiny bit of tacky silicon caulk on the threads to fix the (non) issue. You covered the bases. This could be a nice money-maker for them, and they need that right now. Considering my experience with the King Cobra, and how well Id see the Pythons hold up during this review, I have no concern about the end-shake growing to an unacceptable level anytime soon. Not good. I much preferred the S&W Model 27 for looks, and the Ruger Redhawk for pure brute strength. When the hammer is approximately halfway to its cocked position the bolt is released from the trigger and rides on the outside of the cylinder. I put the full 1,000 rounds I originally intended to shoot through two guns through one single 6 gun. They were put there because they look cool. You cannot get a new Python with an 8" barrel or blue steel. It was sweet, no doubt. Also in keeping with tradition, at twenty-five yards the 2020 Python is unerringly lethal. Not sure if Ill keep it when it returns from Colt, as Im concerned about reliability. When I look at those Pythons or say something like a Colt Walker I see a freakin canon. I assigned that King Cobra to one of my older kids to learn to shoot with and between he and I, it now has thousands of rounds through it., Jon, have I told you how much I thing of you as my dad? And if the Python performs as well as it appeared to during my short time with it, that backlog will probably increase. I am completely up front about how big of a fan I am of Colt. When I ETSed in 83 I bought a 6 stainless Python. Both guns were (and are) lasers and were an absolute joy to shoot. And man, they do look cool. So I can forgive the differences. I couldnt hit the bank fast enough. Please do call them back and let us know what they said. The Colt Python was first introduced in 1955 as Colt's top-of-the-line model. Style and Appearance * * * * * Once the trigger is released, the trigger will rotate back to its at rest position, pulling the transfer bar down from behind the firing pin, leaving a gap between the firing pin and hammer. Groups are measured center to center with a metal ruler. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? 38SPL P. First, let me say I was getting a little worried about Colt. On and on, this crap is seemingly everywhere on guns now. In either mode the functioning sequence is similar, when the trigger or hammer rotates rearward, the trigger unlocks the bolt from the cylinder, while the trigger lifts the hand to rotate the cylinder clockwise, the trigger also moves the transfer bar up behind the firing pin. Although the vented rib and full underlug on the I-Frame Colt may have given it a signature look, its that grips shape that gave the Python its signature feel. These grips fill a single hand well, finishing just below the pinky of my size-large hand. Once the gun fires, theres no reason to carefully bring the trigger forward. The few local gun shops I asked said they didnt really deal in new Colts. If that kind of thing continued on the Python, I wouldnt be disappointed, Id be angry. For any mechanical issue, they should have it returned to you within 30 days. Well-written and thorough. Prior to the development of modern hollow-points even the good old .45 AARP had issues when compared against the monster cartridges you can load into a revolver frame. The Python is back! Did some hunting on the net. In fact, even after 500 rounds in one session through a revolver, I was surprised the rounds had been expended so fast. This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. A stainless GP100 is one of the guns that I just cant seem to keep. Do you have one to recommend or a particular bullet you like? I have to say I was surprised to see Colt bringing the Python back. Hahahahha The original Colt Python revolver was issued in one single barrel length, 6. Its not and never was a safe queen. The eye picks it up easily, and combined with the rear sight, its effective at making both quick and precise shots. Those are some mighty fine looking revolvers. I was also considering a high polish prior to nickle boron and then B coverage. Its simply too bloody expensive for what you get. Ive also been upset front when they disappointed me, like with the King Cobra, although I have certainly warmed up to that gun. Its not blued, but its the best brushed stainless on the market. Pushing is a far more natural action. The Serial Number is under 4000, and it was delivered to my dealer from the distributor one week ago. i have one it is great!!!! The new Python carries a hefty $1499 price tag and they are just about impossible to find. With a modern handgun, using modern steels, a .45 Colt can be loaded to be the equivalent of a .44 RemMag and then some. It isnt the right thing to do but it is reality. Perhaps because of the dirty Harry movies and others. The original Pythons were expensive and genuinely premium pieces, this is just overpriced average (and thats assuming they really have fixed the reliability issues). The end-shake still measures exactly the same. With the ease of mounting a scope on the rib, and the precision the gun has proven capable of, the potential of these guns to be outstanding for closer range deer and farther range varmint hunting is excellent. No contest between a crafted steel revolver and a gun popped out of a mold. And it looks nice when it is done. I COULD get one with my theoretical porkulus cheque. Description: COLT PYTHON 2020 PRODUCTION 6" SP6WTS .357 MAGNUM or 38 Special, Stainless Steel, Factory New in box, Serial # PY200XXX. real. Quintessentially a target revolver, the Colt 2020 Python has pleasingly proven to be incredibly accurate. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. Theres lots more available travel for the firing pin without the transfer bar in the way. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. Pythons have always included a wide, deeply serrated hammer spur as standard. I own both the old and the new Python. Once I determined that I had removed enough material from the hammer, I polished it and re-blued it. Ive never calibrated one of those before. Like the King Cobra, its a brushed stainless like nobody elses. I still have photos from the first gun and all the correspondence from throughout the ordeal. Freaking EXCELLENT question. Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. Wow. The first python had light strikes, gouges on the crown and tool marks inside the barrel. The full under-lug, combined with those rib vents complete a certain stout elegance. My .454 Raging Judge once had the cylinder lock up on me Given that there is no way to easily clear the weapon in that case, that was exciting. They were, and are still, fast to draw, fast to fire, and with a competent marksman, sure to strike the intended target. Last handgun a man would ever need, anywhere, and look like it belonged on the hip of a Canadian Mounted Patrolman. Back in the day I used both eagle and mustang grips, lots of sanding and then a nice finish . I never had any trigger hang-ups. So far the ones Ive seen are selling for over retail sometimes a lot over. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. I even own a few Tubberware pistols. Good story, but I still have the 4 Python I bought NIB in 1973, works good, lasts a long time. I think its worth it to pay 1500 for a stainless gun manufactured to such high standards. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. Fails to fire about half the time (light primer strikes). This is not a fault of the gun, but poor training for which I was once also a victim. Finally, our impatience was rewarded when, earlier this year, Colt released the 6 and 4.25 Pythons. I shoot it regularly and its still like a dream. S&W 686 + with that awesome SA trigger by smith and wesson6 3 (7 shot .357) and still only 800 dollarsguess Im just a broke ass Florida Kracker. by. But how many of those turds floating in swimming pools are actually just Baby Ruth chocolate bars? The problems were seen in guns either straight out of the box or having only been handled by Colt people (the SHOT show debacle). The recoil itself isnt difficult to manage in either length, the 6 gun just gets back on target faster, with very minimal muzzle rise. The 6 model has the traditional three cut-outs in the rib, and the 4.25 has the two sections more traditional to the 4 older models. Three-hundred and seventeen I-frame Pythons were shipped during the first six months at a retail price of $125. Colt brought back the Python in 2020 and it has been consistently selling out since.. Grips: Walnut Target Stocks I dont have a heavy bullet mold for the 357. After the initial release of the Pythons, a few reviewers pointed out some serious reliability issues with the Pythons they received from Colt. The new Colt Python, a revolver brought back from the dead. Listen folks, the name of the alloy is stainless not stainnone. Inspired from the tv series Yellowstone, this Kelly Reilly Blue Coat is poncho-style outerwear. 15 18 comments I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. I'm going to be contacting Colt tomorrow. Nah. Remember when Colt shafted the civilian market, thinking it could exist on military contracts indefinitely? Unequivocally yes. Which is it? So has my shooting buddy, who experienced the same results when I asked him to verify what I was experiencing. When I reviewed the new Colt King Cobra, I noted some concern over the cylinder end-shake, which measured at .003. Adjusting for inflation, the prices on the old production guns and these cost about the same. I dont see any reason to spend twice as much on a Python as on a 586 or 686 with identical performance and the options of an additional round, porting, exotic materials, various barrel lengths and tons of other features in the various trims. $ 1,399.00. How does the new Python affect the value of the old Pythons? This isnt just an accurate, good looking gun, its a fun one, too. Ill never forget sliding that Styrofoam out of the plain brown Colt box. Go back far enough and you can find damn near anything to support your argument. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. LoL. Their recent record indicates they may actually be interested in people who shoot for fun as well as defense. There still seems to be some bugs to be worked out. Got busier since then and havent had time to fight with it. Pythons produced from 1955 to 1969 have no letter in the serial number and are the most desirable to collectors. During all of that shooting 1,700+ rounds I found no issues at all with any of the guns. And now the firing ping pushes far enough forward to strike primers with the requisite force and distance to detonate primers reliably. When you say surface, do you mean the finish, or the material, or the physical structure of it? Width: 1.55 in. In single action, the triggers average was 4 lbs 5 oz. The FIRST RULE of buying anything new (especially guns) is to wait The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. Enjoyed reading your review (youre not a Colt fan at all, are you?). I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. The front sights on all of the current Pythons are a complete break from the original pinned styles, and include the same interchangeable front sight setup as the Cobra series. Additional shipping cost applies to Alaska and Hawaii. More than an homage, the checkered walnut scales are so close to the originals that they can be interchanged with many of the older model Pythons. I didnt expect high marks in this category. And the focus is always on the problem but never the resolution, or the manufacturers response. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. Putting the Python up against any other brand next with your eyes closed? BTW, i hope you and Jeremy dont leave TTAG, hands down the best writers/reviewers here! A shamelessly pro-Colt and Python review. For those particularly interested, the cylinder throats measured at .358 on a minus pin gauge set and the major bore diameter was dead on at .357. My only gripe is a personal styling preference: I dont like full underlugs that extend all the way to the very tip/end of the barrel (muzzle). The original in 1955 had a flat leaf style mainspring like the Trooper and not a plunging type. I love it. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. Great gun I never should have sold. Serial number range is PY2052XX, and there is already a "U" or "J"marking inside the crane that I remember, so it was supposed to be of the fixed models for the initial issues I believe. In CA we have to have a 4 inch tube to legally carry while hunting. Victim blame all you want (like they didnt release the trigger all the way in this review), this release is a mess and the problems were (are?) Then, right before I was going to publish, another 6 and a 4.25 Python came in from the Colt marketing department. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. Never enough. The only Colt I ever owned was a SAA. Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. Its a pain in the neck, but it can be done. During this review, I shot the guns in the rain and I shot them in weird Texas 85-degree winter muggy heat. Im just pulling for Colt to make some improvements. Any one is free to gamble with their funds as they see fit, isnt AMERICA grand,as for myself Ive gambled way too much to continue with any more colt products. try desantis holster hybrid. I got on the order train as fast as I could, asking for both a 6 and 4.25 gun from my distributor. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. You have to know how to shoot the Colt and it isnt for everyone. kinks have been revealed and fixed. Nothing jarred loose. Several other rounds, like the Barnes 140 gr .357 Magnum XPB round scored under 1 as well. I now have a varied collection of plastic autos, steel autos, and revolvers and Im thinking I really need to get a Colt. I understand that there was some criticism of the frame in the early models. . That concerned me because, if it was an old model Cobra, that would be the maximum end-shake we want to see from the factory. I have an unabashed love for revolvers, and while I admit it is nice looking gun, i cant justify an MSRP thats double the cost of its competition. Pretty shameful display so far, especially knowing I could buy a used Ruger with the same problem, dial a number, have it sent in, fixed, and back in my mitts in under two weeks. H&G #43 is a 160 grain. We have 100s of Collector Grade firearms (not on auction) in our inventory and available for . Just something about a huge revolver.. They could be made to be the target pistol in the US market unless S&W brought back the Model 41. At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. After all, it was decades before Colt released a stainless version of the originals. Theyre pushing as fast as they can to get that cylinder rotating again, with no loss in accuracy. The best way to prevent and slow down transmission is to be well informed about the COVID-19 virus, the disease it causes and how it spreads. These days, high performance JHPs mean that while semi-autos still cant keep up with enormous hunting cartridge revolvers, they are more than good enough to compete against .38 SPL self-defense revolvers. News, Extras, Handguns, Revolvers. Measured over 10 pulls of two different guns, theres all of 1.3 oz of difference. I think I made too much money to qualify for that .gov cheese. The second issue I have is when you mention price. Never had an issue. It never moved under recoil, it just moved so easily I found the lack or resistance made it a little harder to make fine adjustments. I just got mine right before all this lock down stuff. Another exciting aspect and big reason why rosin is gaining popularity is its versatility. Seems to me that the Colt market has always been driven by collector and speculative interest, vs. performance for dollars spent. Hey, Nanking Nancy, lookee what I got! For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. The grips, with about 60% of the side surfaces checkered, never slipped or failed in any way. But the biggest strike against it in my book today is the same thing as the legendary Python of old. As much as I bristle at that (I shoot the heck out of finely finished guns all the time), Im afraid theyre right. Id love to see it as light as possible. Got my 686 as an OSP color guard trade in. Its the best! Too many recycled stories and a lack of depth. The subject comes up sometimes when re-finishing post-64 Winchester 94s. I was really wondering about the new generation. Fantastic handling dynamics. I followed your advice and did a search on Google. Frame Material: Stainless Steel Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. Colt tells us the Pythons have been in production since November in order to fill the supply chain before the announcement. The main thing here is that Colt is back in the DA wheelgun game. Im tempted by this new one, but its still pretty pricy. And no, the Cobra and Kimg Cobra are not that gun. I was already shooting one of the guns, and talked with other folks who were shooting them as well. Not even in fancy colors. Slimmed down Cobra with a 4 barrel, fixed trench style rear, thin G10 grips and a 2/3 underlug, much like the originals. . At a guess I wouldnt think it moves the needle. (That's $1,134 in today's . I am dissatisfied customer, as much as how Colts customer service treated me as anything else. Outstanding value. But other than that there dont seem to be any big noticeable changes. Strike two. Height: 5.5 in. Theres always a couple turds in the swimming pool. posted on February 24, 2020. They havent. Even with the old Pythons, Colt made around 65 guns a day at their peak production. The Colt Officer Target pistols, especially in .22 and .32. Definitely the most in-depth complete review Ive seen so far on the new gun. My newest handgun is a stainless Ruger. I asked Colt why 4.25 and not 4 like the original release. Colt designed the new Python to be a strong gun, capable of shooting numerous full-magnum rounds over the course of its life. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. The new Pythons didnt need thread locker. boar with a Glock 17. Holsters need to be leather with some carving, basketweave is a good old school look. As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. Of course, if I didnt like it, there would be plenty of other fan boys to sell the guns off to. A bad combination and an expensive one at that. The vents do look pretty cool. The Pythons barrel is marked simply with the snake styled C in Colt and the location of manufacture on one side and Python .357 Magnum on the other. That may be good for Canadians, but not so great for those of us who can easily find holsters for 4 guns that may not fit just right with that extra 1/4 of barrel. Colt Python, 2020 production The Colt Python was officially re-released by Colt in January 2020, following months of circulating rumors. Shipping cost is $45 and includes shipping insurance to the CONTINENTAL US. Its not exactly what the Democrats wanted done with the money, which makes it all the more delightful. New Smith & Wesson revolvers at the time cost considerably less. On the 4.25 gun, I found the screw a little too loose. It never failed. How deep have we fallen?! Height is 7.25 inches. The Python is the only revolver Ive ever considered paying so much for. Colt has changed from a manufacturing company to a brand marketing company, sadly the prancing pony isnt what it used to be and made its name on, pass. If it makes your heart flutter and your blood pressure spike with joy, by all means, go for it. But that all goes out the window with hand polishing. I second the It was addressed in the article comment. If you dont own revolvers you have a serious hole in your handgun battery. YouTube has indeed changed our world . Like the classic Pythons of yesteryear, the 2020 models feature the full-underlug barrel and the ventilated top rib, providing that classic look that wheelgun fans love. The .357 Magnum can be a painful handful in a lightweight, snub-nosed revolver. It is friggin gorgeous. it was beyond me how somebody could screw that up. Beyond the straight back pull with very little stacking, and a now confirmed consistent weight and feel, the wide serrated trigger shoe completes its cycle without grit or mush. Took about 10seconds with a stone to fix. Colt took less than perfect functioning examples to their big roll out at shot show, what manufacturing company doesnt check out examples before a event like Shot for their premiere. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. Really wanted the 4.25 inch barrel gun but then I realized- I have a four and a six inch Python now, not a bad place to be. When you pull the hammer back, you know this is something special. The new 6-inch Anaconda has an unloaded weight of 53 ounces, and an overall length of 13 inches. Note the last 4 words of the review. But its never bad to have another player, especially when the product is that good, and according to this review, the product *is* that good. I would guess 1/3rd of the cost of the gun more, and very few would be released. Feeding issues plague Semi-Autos due to magazine issues, ammo differences, and wear items. You mentioned the difference in the actions. Im currently unaware of any major holster manufacturers making well-fitted holsters for this revolver, so if any of you know of one, let us know in the comments. Youre looking for a company run by God. "The funny thing. Commercial rounds included a 90gr FTX Critical Defense .38 SPL Lite load from Hornady, the Federal Premium .38 SPL +P 130gr Hydrashock, a wide variety of 158gr FMJs in .38SPL and .357 Magnum, the once again impressive Barnes Vor-TX 140gr XPB HP round, and many others. That kind that rushes a product to completion, and that includes a lot of them, including my own. When push comes to shove though, Ive never been a big fan of the .357 either. I was thrilled to find a new Python at Cabelas. And this Python just might be the one gun I need to add to the herd. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." Buy Colt Python 2020 ENGRAVED Royal Snake Scale by Altamont 4.25" .357 Mag: GunBroker is the largest seller of Revolvers Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 973467538 . I am on my second new python if there were only 25 returned why did it take 3 months to get to me? That allows the upper part of the hammer to move farther forward, which allows the lower part of the hammer to move farther forward, which pushes the transfer bar farther forward, which pushes the firing pin about 0.010 inches additionally forward. Heck of a startup for a 1600 dollar revolver, if you ask me. It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. New one just doesnt look right. Weight: 46 oz. Great looking revolver! Then they released the King Cobra and we could see the writing on the wall. That was the brushed stainless finish then, to be followed by the Ultimate Stainless finish in 1984. Love my New Python. Even the stoutest 158 gr loads are tamed by the Python. . And high-qualityrosinis just that. I was impressed with the finish on the King Cobra, and it looks even better when theres more of it to look at. Fixed trench rear. Upon thinking about it, I might just get one of these this summer, just to have a gun that can handle full-power .357s. MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700), Colt Python 4.25 Much for the better. A thing is worth exactly what someone will pay for it, and Im glad I ordered early. Another problem with the internet revealed. Once the buying fever dies down Id like to buy one of those 6 inch models. Im increasingly puzzled why this crap is there. Of course, we are all looking forward to the Royal Blue like the one above. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? When I get my government check, Ill spend it on a Python. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. The new Python is a better gun. Its my BBQ gun. Getting to handle those old beauties would be cool. I put in 200 rounds of reloaded .357 Magnum through that new 6 Python. As with the King Cobra review, I cant do better justice to the operation of the transfer bar system than the Colt manual itself. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. On all of the guns I shot, the windage screw moves very easily. Instead, they went with a transfer bar system. Very proper. Maybe Colt will offer the blue from their custom shop? Folks who buy this will buy Guncrafter 1911 pistols and the SIG P210. I really liked that gun, but sold it many years ago to help pay for my house. Beauty contest? The gross tooling marks present under the top strap of my King Cobra did nothing to alleviate my concerns. Another nod to the original Pythons is the hammer spur. 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